تونس و خطر الدولة الدينية عل المجتمع.

[الشريف قاسي]

متى نجحت دولة دينية في التاريخ ، لماذ الدولة الدينية خطر على الحريات ، ما سر بقاء دولة مذهبية كإيران و السعودية الى اليوم؟ لماذا سقطت دولة طالبان السلفية ؟ هل يمكن قيام دولة سلفية في الصومال؟ ما الفرق بين الدولة المدنية و الدينية؟ ما سر نجاح التيار الاسلامي في تركيا و تونس و ماليزيا ؟ لماذا تصادر الحريات و تقمع المعارضة في الدويلات المذهبية كإيران و السعودية ؟ هل السلفيون يملكون منهج قيام دولة ، و كيف هي هذه الدولة؟ هل هي دولة مذهبية ام اسلامية؟ لماذا لم ينجح الاخوان المسلمون في مصر حتى قامت الثورة الشبانية؟ لماذا يتخوف الاخوان في مصر من السلفية؟ هل يمكن ان تنجح النهضة التونسية في بناء دولة مدنية ديموقراطية؟ ما سر فشل مشروع الاسلاميين في الجزائر في الوقت الذي نجح غيرهم؟ هل الدولة دينية دولة ديكتاتورية استبدادية ام يمكنها ان تكون مدنية ديموقراطية؟ ؟؟

[تأمل عقل]

تساؤلات صالحة لإدارة نقاش حضاري مثمر وخصب حول ،الدولة في العالم ،والعلم الإسلامي خاصة مع هور أحزاب تحمل شعار الإسلام دون ودولة.
تخلي أن المشكل ليس في الدين ،وليس في الدولة،في االفهم البشري للدين والدولة،فكل صاحب قوة يشرع لنفسه مايحفظ وجوده في الحكم،سواء باسم الدين أو الدولة،باسم الديمقراطية أو الشريعة...
فالقضية بشرية لادينية ولاديموقراطية...
والتاريخ مع ان شهادته ليست نزيهة لكنها عبرة لمن يعتبر.
شكرا على موضوعك.
أليست الجزائر تسمى:الجمهورية الجزائرية الديمقراطية الشعبية.؟منذ الإستقلال...

[الشريف قاسي]

بارك الله فيك اخي الكريم ، أين الديموقراطية الشعبية في الجزائر ؟؟؟

[ابن باديس]

أخي الكريم ،، قاسي !!
النقاش هتا سيتشعب كثيرا لأن هناك مصطلحات فضفاضة جدا وجب ضبطها أولا !!
و أهمها المقصود بالدولة الدينية ! والمقصود بالحرية !
وجب تبيين هذا اولا وعندها أبشر بنقاش مثمر بحول الله

[الشريف قاسي]

الدولة الدينية هي التي يحكمها رجال دين معين مثل الملالي في ايران او مثل مايسمى هيئة علماء السعودية، و الدولة المذهبية هي التي يحكمها مذهب ديني معين كالشيعة في ايران او الوهابيون في السعودية ، لا يسمح فيها بالخروج عن مذهب الدولة المعينة، و الحرية لا قيود عليها إلا ما قيد الانسان نفسه به بقناعة و دراية.

[باهي جمال]

متى نجحت دولة دينية في التاريخ ،
نجحت الدولة التي منهجها الدين الاسلامي في العهد النبوي والراشدي وفترات من العهود المختلفة في كل الخلافات والامبراطوريات الاسلامية
لماذ الدولة الدينية خطر على الحريات
الدين جاء لتحرير الناس لا لاستعبادهم والتضييق عليهم ،
ما سر بقاء دولة مذهبية كإيران و السعودية الى اليوم؟
ايران تستغل العاطفة الشيعية اما السعودية فهي دولة شرعية رغم ما عليها من ملاحظات
لماذا سقطت دولة طالبان السلفية ؟
دولة طالبان ليست سلفية بل هي على مذهب الاحناف القديم وكانهم يعيشون عهد الامام الاعظم ابو حنيفة رضي الله عنه ولم يجددوا ولم تصلهم ربما مستجدات العصر
هل يمكن قيام دولة سلفية في الصومال؟
السلفيون لايميلون الى الوصول الى الحكم وهو خطا استراتيجي كبير
ما الفرق بين الدولة المدنية و الدينية؟
الدولة المدنية تطبق اجتهادات البشر في الحكم ووسائله والدولة الدينية تطبق احكام الشريعة ولا يوجد في الاسلام مفهوم الدولة الدينية بالمعنى الثيوقراطي الكنسي
ما سر نجاح التيار الاسلامي في تركيا و تونس و ماليزيا ؟
السر في الفهم المتفتح للنصوص الشرعية دون تزمت ولا انغلاق
لماذا تصادر الحريات و تقمع المعارضة في الدويلات المذهبية كإيران و السعودية ؟
لحماية الانظمة الحاكمة
هل السلفيون يملكون منهج قيام دولة ،
لا اعتقد ذلك بل لا يؤمنون الا بحاكم يصل عن طريق الشورى او الدبابة وهم فقط عليهم الطاعة والانقياد تعبدا لله عز وجل
و كيف هي هذه الدولة؟
...................
هل هي دولة مذهبية ام اسلامية؟
....................
لماذا لم ينجح الاخوان المسلمون في مصر حتى قامت الثورة الشبانية؟
بل الاخوان هم وقودها ومنظموها
لماذا يتخوف الاخوان في مصر من السلفية؟
لانهم لا يفقهون في السياسة وسيفسدون عليهم العرس الديمقراطي
هل يمكن ان تنجح النهضة التونسية في بناء دولة مدنية ديموقراطية؟
بالتاكيد
ما سر فشل مشروع الاسلاميين في الجزائر في الوقت الذي نجح غيرهم؟
لانهم متسرعون ومتشددون
هل الدولة دينية دولة ديكتاتورية استبدادية ام يمكنها ان تكون مدنية ديموقراطية؟ ؟؟
يمكنها ان تكون مدنية ديمقراطية

[حمبراوي]

لماذا لم ينجح الاخوان المسلمون في مصر حتى قامت الثورة الشبانية؟
ذلك التنظيم الرائع لا يقدر عليه إلا الإخوان يا أخي
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