بين معدل التلميذ و مستواه

[Karim Ibn Karim]

اردت طرح هذا السؤال و ذلك لتفاقم المشكلة

هل معدل التلميذ او الطالب
يعكس مستواه فعلا ام العكس
و اذا كان لا
فما هو السبب ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

[حسام العراقي]

مؤكد المعدل لايعكس مستوى التلميذ لان المعدل يعتمد على ماحصل عليه التلميذ بالمجموع خلال ثلاث فصول ولا يعتمد على ماحصل عليه التلميذ بكل مادة, وهنا تدخل نقاط الدروس الترفيهية كالرياضة والموسيقى والرسم عامل اساسي برفع معدل التلميذ بعيدا عن الدروس الاساسية ولهذا يبقى التلميذ ينتقل من قسم لقسم بفضل هذه المواد الترفيهية حتى يصل للباك وهناك من المفروض يتم التقييم الحقيقي ولكن للاسف حتى الباك تدخل بحسابات سياسية ترفع من نسبة النجاح من دون الاعتماد على العطاء..

[Karim Ibn Karim]

مؤكد المعدل لايعكس مستوى التلميذ لان المعدل يعتمد على ماحصل عليه التلميذ بالمجموع خلال ثلاث فصول ولا يعتمد على ماحصل عليه التلميذ بكل مادة, وهنا تدخل نقاط الدروس الترفيهية كالرياضة والموسيقى والرسم عامل اساسي برفع معدل التلميذ بعيدا عن الدروس الاساسية ولهذا يبقى التلميذ ينتقل من قسم لقسم بفضل هذه المواد الترفيهية حتى يصل للباك وهناك من المفروض يتم التقييم الحقيقي ولكن للاسف حتى الباك تدخل بحسابات سياسية ترفع من نسبة النجاح من دون الاعتماد على العطاء..
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شكرا رمرورك اخي
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لكن انا ارى ان هناك البعض من المدرسين لا اقول الجميع بل البعض
اصبحوا يتساهلون في قضية التقييم اي النقاط
فمثلا تجد تلميذ عنده في مادة معينة 15 من 20
و لا يعرف الاملاء
وهلم جراااااااااااا
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تحياتي

[شيماء39]

بحساباتنا التقليدية دائما نساوي ونوازي بين معدل التلميذ ومستواه ......
و يجب علينا ان لا نقارن المعدل بالمستوى ...لأن الكثير من التلاميذ مستواهم وقدرتهم العقلية تختلف من تلميذ لآخر..نعم نؤمن بالفروقات الفردية .....الأمر يبقى مرتبط بمدى تساهل المعلم في وضع النقاط....
أيضا خوف اتلميذ من الامتحان ورهبته....أضا الظروف التي يمر بها التلميذ والمعلم
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وهناك العديد من العوارض التي تجعل من التلميذ ذو كفآءة يتحصل على معدل ضعيف..

[Karim Ibn Karim]

بحساباتنا التقليدية دائما نساوي ونوازي بين معدل التلميذ ومستواه ......
و يجب علينا ان لا نقارن المعدل بالمستوى ...لأن الكثير من التلاميذ مستواهم وقدرتهم العقلية تختلف من تلميذ لآخر..نعم نؤمن بالفروقات الفردية .....الأمر يبقى مرتبط بمدى تساهل المعلم في وضع النقاط....
أيضا خوف اتلميذ من الامتحان ورهبته....أضا الظروف التي يمر بها التلميذ والمعلم
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وهناك العديد من العوارض التي تجعل من التلميذ ذو كفآءة يتحصل على معدل ضعيف..
نعم فعلا اصبت
و انا اقصد تعامل الاساتذة مع التقييم و كيف يضعون التنقيط
طبعا مقارنة مع التعليم سابقا
فسابقا بصراحة
كان فعلا معدل التلميذ يعكس مستواه
ماعدا ربما في حالات خاصة مثل التي ذكرتها
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فما الذي تغير بين الامس و اليوم ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
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شكرا للمرور تحياتي

[مُسلِمة]

السلام عليكم لا تدهبوا بعيدا في تفكيركم أستاذة فيزياء في يوم من الأيام أخدت 1 من 20 في مادة الفيزياء

[Karim Ibn Karim]

السلام عليكم لا تدهبوا بعيدا في تفكيركم أستاذة فيزياء في يوم من الأيام أخدت 1 من 20 في مادة الفيزياء
ممممممممممممممممم
هل يعني ذلك ان مستواها ناقص
ام ان التنقيط قد يخطئ او يصيب
او قد يلعب الحظ دوره
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شكرا للمشاركة
تحياتي

[دائمة الذكر]

موضوع مهم ، لي عودة

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